In this episode of Caregiver Conversations, Kristie King, the Executive Director of the Southeast Michigan Senior Regional Collaborative (SRC), and Antonia Harbin-Lamb, a staff attorney with the Elder Law and Advocacy Center (ELAC), a division of Neighborhood Legal Services Michigan, delve into the crucial work that their respective organizations are doing. Join us as they share insights into their backgrounds, their passion for assisting the aging population, and the unique services provided by SRC and ELAC. Discover the powerful impact of their collaboration and the innovative programs that are enhancing the lives of seniors in our community. Whether you're a caregiver, a professional in the aging services field, or simply interested in the well-being of older adults, this episode offers valuable information and inspiring stories. Tune in to learn more about how these organizations are "senior strong" and making a difference every day.
Kristie: [00:00:00] Welcome back to Caregiver Conversations, your Guide to Navigating the World of Caregiving with Insights and Expertise. I'm Kristy King, executive director of the Southeast Michigan Senior Regional Collaborative,
Antonia: and I'm Antonia Harbin Lamb, a staff attorney with the Elder Law Advocacy Center, a division of Neighborhood Legal Services, Michigan.
Together we're your hosts and advocates for caregivers everywhere. Today we're excited to delve into crucial topics impacting seniors in our community with a special episode focusing on our organizations and our collaboration.
Kristie: That's right, Antonia. Today we'll be exploring our own mission, our services, and the initiatives of both of our organizations, the SRC and ELAC.
So we'll also be talking about how our joint efforts have relaunched this here caregiver conversation.
Antonia: Kristie, let's start by introducing our listeners to the SRC. Could you share the mission [00:01:00] statement and goals of the SRC?
Kristie: So the SRC is what we're more affectionately known as. We are the Southeast Michigan Senior Regional Collaborative.
That's our long name, also known as the Senior Regional Collaborative. As you see, we have many acronyms that we may go by, but our mission just wholly is to improve the quality of life of older adults, people with disabilities and caregivers in the region through capacity building and strategic leadership.
We are a nonprofit organization that serves over 40 other nonprofits that all serve those populations, the caregivers, those with disabilities and older adults. Our uniqueness is that we're not a direct service provider, but we are that place where they can come as a think tank, where we bring them together for collaboration, for sharing of resources, and other items of that nature.
Antonia: Wow. So I always thought that the [00:02:00] senior regional collaborative did direct services. And that seems to be a little off.
Kristie: Yes. A lot of times people think we do provide direct services, so always say, we're not gonna do transportation, we're not gonna do meals. We never wanna be in competition with our member agencies.
We were developed back in 2 0 0 8. It was really an opportunity for those nonprofits that were serving the older adult populations to come together and really think through strategies that help serve the community at large to help serve the older adults, those vulnerable populations. So how can they best do that together?
They can't do that by competing with. One another, but really just an opportunity for them to come together in one place to talk about what the issues were and figure out how they could collectively move those issues forward. Here in southeast Michigan, when we first started back in 2 0 0 8, we only served Wayne Oakland and Macomb County.
So [00:03:00] when they came together, it was a smaller group, but as you can see, since then we've really grown a lot and we were not even a nonprofit back in 2 0 0 8. We gained our nonprofit status actually in 2016, still with the same mission and the goals at large.
Antonia: Well, we do need support as nonprofit organizations, so I am very happy to be a part of the senior regional collaborative as well with our organization.
Kristie: I think the other part of it too is to kind of think through for us is the advocacy piece. A huge part of what we've done, especially when we started out in the beginning, was around advocacy. Really bringing to legislatures, bringing to the forefront the impacts of older adults, what's really going on.
Older adults do so much in the community. They're very, a strong part of the population that's often honestly overlooked. Or may not receive all the services that they should receive and um, [00:04:00] especially the vulnerability as they grow old. So really one of the objectives is to make sure that they have a standardized quality of life, that they can live and age in place.
That's super important for all of our member organizations that come to the table. Really, how do we make that happen together? Really understanding the differences within each organization itself.
Antonia: Thanks, Kristie. Now can we talk about all the programs that you have and offer at the SRC to the community and the benefits that those programs offer?
Kristie: So, as mentioned, we're a little different because we really seek to amplify the services the organizations like ELAC provide, have to really think strategically and critically around. What does that look like? Once again, I'm gonna say it. You don't wanna ever feel like we are in direct competition with any of our member organizations, so we're not gonna do direct services, but how do we serve our member agencies?
And so that's the bigger part. And so one huge thing that [00:05:00] we do that's been a part of us since the beginning. Is our leadership and training institute, and really that's where you'll find on our events page, you'll see all of our workshops and webinars. You'll see all of our continuing education. That's where we'll have our conferences and other items of education.
We've also done some specialty leadership programs for our emerging leaders and executive leadership as well in the past. I really hope to get back to that very soon as well. Other programs that we have. One of the things that I'm super excited about as we continue to develop it out is our change in the care conversation, and that is our coalition.
Our coalition geared toward caregivers, specifically family caregivers, really looking at the uniqueness, having them come to the date table voice, what their issues are, setting priorities and strategies on how to move forward as caregivers themselves. So really looking at advocacy aspects. We do a lot of [00:06:00] advocacy work in that area.
We're continuing to develop that out as well. But we are a year strong. We work with the National Alliance of Caregivers is one thing. Our Michigan Health Endowment Fund has been great in helping support and move that initiative forward as well. And so that's a open initiative. We really support caregivers throughout all of our member organizations.
So always say that we're not gonna do a peer support group. We're not gonna do powerful tools for caregiving, but what we will do is through our coalition support, all of those programs that come from our other member organizations, in addition to listening to the voice of the family caregiver that actually comes to the table and shares what's up, their experience, and how to move forward within that experience itself.
So that's something that we're super proud of right now. That's really been critical to a lot of the work that we've been doing. So another part of our, uh, programs and services that we offer through the SRC is of course, through advocacy, which was an initial component to the work of the SRC back in 2008.[00:07:00]
And so at that time there were a lot of legislative events that took place that the organizations at the time put together. And what's grown out of that continues to move forward where we actually support a lot of the legislative work of our member agencies. So once again, how do we amplify and support the work that's being, that's taking place?
So making sure that we're looking at what's going on with home and community-based services, supporting the Silver Key Coalition, which was developed out of the SRC some years back. Um, and so issues like that, but also part of that work that took place in this current initiative now is our quality aging matrix.
We call it the Qum, the short name. We always have some acronyms around here to get used to, and that is an assessment tool, an evaluation tool that allows our social workers and case managers and others that's working in working directly with clients to measure the quality of life of our clients across multiple domains.
So it allows us to [00:08:00] look at nutrition. It allows to look at how they may be living independently, how active they are, their social life, things like that. So it's across 15 domains, and so housing, nutrition, and health, the data gather through the qum enables our planners and evaluators to gauge the effectiveness of their programs.
So it really allows to put some meat behind what's really going on to really qualify the work that's going on within the patient populations that are served with some of our, uh, member agencies. Another program, a service that we've worked together on is our Elder Caring Coordination Program, which is a court order process for aging persons and their families, legally authorized decision makers as well, who are court order.
Or invited, depending on what's going on to participate, that helps resolve disputes regarding the aging person's autonomy and their wellbeing. And so really looking at those families that are back and forth in court all the [00:09:00] time, um, and really giving 'em another option. Uh, maybe mediation hasn't worked or maybe they haven't tried mediation.
Elder caring coordinator assign that elder caring coordinator to the family to help them work through their disputes. And a lot of times these disputes are way beyond the aging one, their loved one. It's really about deep seated, something that happened years ago that was never resolved, just conflict within the family and we're, you know, been very excited to have Eli as a strong partner, our legal partner on this program as well.
We brought that program and work with. The developers of Florida and Wisconsin to bring elder caring coordination here to Michigan. And we are in the pilot phase now, but we are in year three of that pilot. We actually have cases that are moving from the court systems and have some amazing judges that entrusted us with their families to do the right thing, and that's.
We've strived to do through elder caring coordination. I think you say that it's been a challenge for [00:10:00] us, but at the same time, I think we've learned a lot and we continue to learn as we really look to move our program forward.
Antonia: Yeah, we really have learned a lot over the last, almost four years now, I guess, because we've been working on that program throughout the pandemic, which was very interesting, and putting it all together and.
Meeting and developing. It's been a very interesting process.
Kristie: It has and just to learn, you know, what we need to do different here in Michigan and how it looks different and shows up in different states. Working with the developers to make sure that we own our own uniqueness in that program and that we're able to serve the families as well as answer the judges and what they need and what they want.
And of course we have a few snags, but we've been. Real consistent and I'm, I'm happy to really got to have you, uh, you guys as a partner ongoing. 'cause it's pushed us and allowed us to also have that legal component that we wouldn't have had that would've been difficult in other [00:11:00] areas, which speaks to the collaborative, it speaks to having multiple partners at the table and the importance of that.
And that's really what the SRC is about, is making sure that everyone is connecting to support one another and serving our aging population.
Antonia: So how did you personally become involved with the SRC, and how did you get into this aging space?
Kristie: I'm a social worker by trade. I always say I'm a social worker.
True and true. I'm a clinically trained social worker, and I don't think. What it would mean to, to, you know, what my career would mean. I didn't really, really think about that, but I knew that I always wanted to help people. So just being clinically trained, you know, doing therapy with families, working, I'm a, I come out of the dialysis units.
I spent nearly 10 years in dialysis and another, almost 10 years working with the Kidney Foundation and moving forward from there and just continuing to grow in who I was and [00:12:00] what I found myself in was that. I literally was in aging services. That is what I kind of just geared myself to, just kind of fell into it.
I didn't look for it. It kind of found me and just have an opportunity to learn from older adults is an amazing part to have is part of what you do and always say, find something you love to do and you never have to go to work a day in your life. I work hard. But at the same time, it's enjoyable, especially when I had the opportunities to meet people, to sit and talk to our older adults and our seniors and just learn about people.
And even with the collaborative itself, I'm, I don't have the opportunity to be in the community as much as I used to and building programs and things like that. But what I do have is the opportunity to meet new people within organizations and build those relationships and, and learn about them. So, although.
You know, my community may have changed in some ways or with my direct interactions. At the same time, I'm still building, you know, and just kind of [00:13:00] in this space and just, you know, doing the best that I can in this space.
Antonia: Well, I completely understand that this aging space is an amazing place to be. It's rewarding in so many different ways, honestly.
And. Can you tell me more about the tagline or your campaign? I am Senior Strong and where that came from. I love that.
Kristie: Yeah. Thank you for that. So once again, back before me, before I was around the SRC at the time thought it was important to really highlight the importance of older adults in the work that they do in the community.
So we often think of seniors as being very frail. We think of them that they can't do anything, that they're just at home. And we know that that's not the truth. We know that they are commanding attention in the community. We know they're leading initiatives. We know they're volunteering, they're still employed.
They're really taking charge. And so that's where that [00:14:00] tagline comes from. And so it really, the original campaign. Feature a number of older adults doing amazing things in the community. And so that idea is really to, to make that a strong tagline so that when you think of seniors, you think of them as seniors strong.
So really changing the narrative around who we see older adults as being so not frail and weak 'cause we know that's not who they are, but really that they're strong and they're leaders and they're taking charge within the communities in which they serve.
Antonia: Okay. And can you tell us about any upcoming initiatives with the senior regional collaborative?
Anything you wanna tell the listeners about? So
Kristie: I think our biggest initiative, I mean once again it goes back to partnerships and collaboration is our Agent Matters conference that we partner huge with. I know we've talked about it already, but it's a huge initiative that really looks at collaboration with the SRC is built on.
And of course you [00:15:00] guys are one of the core collaborators at that table, ELAC. And so just knowing that that's a huge initiative. August 1st, we know at Fellowship Chapel in Detroit, I. But another initiative for us would be, I'm gonna go back to our change in the care conversation. For us, it's gonna be really important to get the word out about the importance of highlighting caregivers, specifically family caregivers.
It's a journey that a lot of us are on, and we don't often think about it. A lot of caregivers don't consider themselves as being caregivers, and so for us is bringing those caregivers to the table once again, making sure that they have a voice. Making sure that they understand that there's someone here for them and there's a place for them, and that they can put that voice to work, and that there's actually even larger, there's lots of advocacy going on on a state and national level to provide support for family caregivers and professional caregivers as well.
And I often like to [00:16:00] think of family caregivers as professional caregivers because you have to be a professional period to do that work across the board. So those are two things I think I like to highlight. But I do wanna say one more thing that I think is important in understanding who we are as the SRC.
I think one of the biggest things beyond any initiative or program or service that we have is really the idea of network convening and just sharing of resources. For me, the biggest value for any member to be at the SRCs table is the ability for them to come together and share those resources. For those larger organizations and smaller organizations to meet on one plane, where a lot of times that's not an opportunity.
A lot of times there's not an opportunity to meet with a larger, multimillion dollar organization and maybe a small startup organization and really understand how those networks. Can really help one another and continue to help build the communities in which they're all [00:17:00] seeking to serve and really keeping us on one part, which is to understand we are looking to improve the quality of life of older adults and caregivers and persons with disabilities.
So for me, I just wanna really highlight the importance of collaboration and sharing of those resources, and that's a huge part of the work that the SRC does. So I think right now, Antonia, it is my turn to talk to you about what ELAC does and a little bit about your work as an attorney as well, and so.
You know this conversation for us, we always have conversations and we are always doing brainstorming and things like that, and I think that's what's really sparked our relationship and commitment to one another to continue to collaborate. But talk to us a little bit about ELAC and what it does, where you guys come from, who you're connected to, and what that looks like for you.
So listeners can really gain an understanding of the work that you all do to support older adults in the community.
Antonia: Okay, well [00:18:00] we are the Elder Law and Advocacy Center, and we are a division of Neighborhood Legal Services Michigan. So under that overarching umbrella and neighborhood legal services, Michigan provides a lot of different services in the housing area, in children's area, children's advocacy, elder law.
We also do some human trafficking. There's some things that are done in that area, but all aspects of advocacy and for our division, for the elder law division, basically we provide free legal services to those who are 60 and older. Who live in Wayne County and their caregivers. It's really a lot of different services that we provide.
A focus in general civil legal matters, but also specifically we do life planning and legacy planning. [00:19:00] We have a first Tuesday workshop that many people know about. Every first Tuesday of the month at two o'clock, we hold a workshop where anyone that's 60 and older. That lives in Detroit, or like I said, Wayne County, they can attend and those workshops are currently via Zoom.
They can listen to our workshop about life planning, and we talk and have all types of discussions about that, and they can ask their questions and have those answered. We also provide them with an opportunity to get free documents at the end. If they're wanting to do a power of attorney for healthcare or finances, a will a lady bird deed or sometimes you know, even some additional documents like a funeral designation if you don't have someone specifically going to take care of that.
So we provide those documents. We also provide landlord tenant services, consumer law. Probate. We help with guardianship and [00:20:00] conservatorship. It's elder abuse. So many different things, like I said. And then we do all those things for caregivers because a lot of times caregivers need that type of assistance too.
They have all these questions and a lot of times they are legal questions or they lead to a legal matter. So we are there to support caregivers in that way. But outside of that, I would say too, we have several other programs and maybe I can talk a little bit more about those too. But I don't wanna take up too much time because I know we have a lot of different things to talk about.
But I do wanna mention our kinship caregiver program too, because that is something that people may not know if you are taking care of a minor child. And your grandmother or a family member, you can actually get assistance from us as well, that you need a guardianship or [00:21:00] some type of advice along those lines.
We do that as well. So there's a lot, a whole lot.
Kristie: You guys definitely do way more than I thought you did. You know, kind of like you, my initial interpretation when I heard Neighborhood Legal Services, ELAC, elder Law Advocacy Center, automatically thought just neighborhood legal services kind of understanding as a social worker, the broad concept of what neighborhood legal services was.
But now I understand, and especially working with you all that is so much deeper than that. Okay, Antonia, what are some of the core services that ELAC provides to seniors and caregivers, and how do these impact their lives?
Antonia: So the Elder Law and Advocacy Center provides free legal services for individuals, 60 years of age and older, who live in Wayne County, and we focus on civil legal matters.
Those include life planning and legacy planning. [00:22:00] doing life planning documents like wills, power of attorney, lady bird deeds, free of charge for our clients. We provide legal education in all different types of areas, as well as landlord, tenant services, consumer probate, guardianship and conservatorship, and elder abuse, prevention, education, and advice.
We also provide those services for caregivers, helping caregivers really with the legal authority that they need. We assist them with Medicare and Medicaid issues, consumer matters, and guardianship and conservatorship. I. As well as in the kinship care area. Two, we provide assistance with those who are 55 years of age and older.
You could be a grandparent or a family member taking care of a minor child. We can advise you on issues related to [00:23:00] that. We also provide a senior housing eviction diversion program at this time, helping seniors to stay in their homes. And giving education along those lines for tenants as well as management companies.
And currently we just received a grant that allows us to help the city of Detroit residents who are wanting to plan their life and legacy planning documents. This program will help with ensuring generational wealth will be passed down, and that's a really big program and new program that we're excited about at the Elder Law and Advocacy Center.
The other program that we help with in the community is the Coordinated Community Response Coalition. We are a fiduciary and the chair of an elder abuse task force that helps in Oakland, Wayne, and Macomb County. So we put on a lot of [00:24:00] educational conferences, webinars, and we have meetings, monthly meetings with that.
And I just wanna mention too, about our first Tuesday workshop. That's something that we're known for. We've been doing that for over 20 years now. Every first Tuesday of the month, any caregiver or care recipient, anyone that's 60 years of age can come to that workshop. We're doing those via Zoom now, and they can get their life planning documents completed.
So that's something that's really important and something that's been a staple in our work.
Kristie: These services are free, if I remember right. They're free or they're low cost depending on the income of the senior, I believe.
Antonia: Yes. The mediation services actually are based on a sliding scale fee, and they are based on that older individual, what their resources are, what their monthly finances will be.
We have a scale and we provide those services like that. So they're not [00:25:00] completely free, but they really are very reduced fees.
Kristie: Got you, got you. Not free, but reduced. Mm-Hmm. You know, one question I have is thinking through impact, your work at ELAC. ELAC itself has a huge impact on the community, but talk about how your work has impacted you as an attorney.
I know you're an educator as well, so how has that impacted you and how do you bring that into your work every day?
Antonia: So somehow I have found through this work, which kind of has been a little bit of a path for me, I started out as a real estate appraiser and salesperson, and based on my family business went into that and I just didn't like it.
I still do have my real estate license today, but I just didn't like it. So I just was searching for something and. What I used to love to do, I used to [00:26:00] love spending time with my grandmother in Detroit. We spent so much time together and she got older, she had Alzheimer's disease, and I saw the decline of her and our time together.
So that was an area that I was really special to me, and that drives some of the passion that I have about developing programs for older adults. And I decided to go back to law school about eight years ago. Not, well, actually. It's been a lot longer than that now, but I've been an attorney for about eight years and with that change of career, I found the Elder Law and Advocacy Center.
I was an extern for them. And and volunteer for them. And I saw the, all the great work they were doing, and I wasn't even an attorney, you know, yet. But during my experience there, it was just an amazing time. And I thought, wow, [00:27:00] there's so much that can be done here. And I had no idea of all that could be done and all that would come even out of Covid.
And as we're seeing, you know, just the developing of how many seniors there are right now. But my time in this work has helped me to see gaps and being an attorney, and I'm always seeing like, oh, this needs to change. This needs some tweaking. I. And so that has been really the motivating factor in the passion that I've used to drive some of the programs that we have today.
Some things I didn't even mention. Our senior housing eviction diversion program has come out of that. Our medical-legal partnership program has come out of that, even the mediation program and. What we're doing today too.
Kristie: Yeah. And it seems that, I think for both of us, just following that passion and following the purpose, you know, [00:28:00] just following wherever it leads us has led us here.
Yeah. Has led us to be able to collaborate together
Antonia: Yeah.
Kristie: As well, and to continue to move forward on our programs as well. So most definitely. You're really deeply involved in elder law in this work. It's your purpose, it is your passion. What are some misconceptions that people have about legal issues affecting seniors and how do you look through ELAC to address some of these misconceptions?
Antonia: So really the only thing that I really wanna address about that is the fact that sometimes in the caregiving world, caregivers may think that. They can do whatever they need to do for their care. Recipient without legal authority and legal authority, I think is a misconception. People don't understand that you have to have legal authority to do this.
Even if. It may be your spouse, it might be a [00:29:00] close family member or just someone you're just taking care of, but you need to have that to be able to act on their behalf. And so that's why power of Attorney documents doing those things early, that is something that needs to be done and people really can do them at age 18.
And have that and be able to adjust and change as they need to. But everybody should have a power of attorney for healthcare, for finances, so that they have that legal authority to act on someone's behalf.
Kristie: I know as a social worker, many of times I've had family meetings with families, is at a critical part for their loved one and having to talk about.
What are the next steps? And our thing was always how do you wanna live? And it's easier to do those documents when you're able to do those documents and not have to consider what is getting ready to happen or be in a critical space. And so [00:30:00] definitely I still go by that is how do you wanna live and making sure that those documents are done because they are ever so important.
I definitely, definitely agree. So thank you for that.
Antonia: Okay. Well, Kristie, let's discuss how our organizations came together and how the SRC and ELAC collaboration began.
Kristie: You know, I learned something new today. You know, for me, I thought ELAC was new, new, and Antonio said, no, we've been around since, I think you said 1996 or 97.
Antonia: Yeah, 20 years.
Kristie: Um, and yeah, and so for me, I was like, oh, okay. And that collaboration for us has grown because, you know, we came around in 2 0 0 8, but I believe that Neighborhood Legal Services, ELAC has been there at the beginning, developing relationships and figuring out what that looks like. And I think when I came on board in 2018 with my Bright ideas and everything that was at [00:31:00] the table, was really looking at what do we have available, who's here, who's willing to help move these initiatives forward?
And I think. Just over time, us building a relationship, our organizations, building a relationship with one another and being able to trust one another and, and some of the work and me understanding that because what you guys have been able to do for us is bring those workshops, webinars. Support whatever questions or we have issues or whatever's going on may legally with our caregivers or, or clients or things that we come in contact with.
You guys have always been there, been able to connect with you all, which has been great for us. And so I think that you guys have always had been an open door. You know, I can always knock on the door and say, Hey, would you guys be interested in this? 'cause I always have some bright idea, um, pilot that we are gonna try and things like that.
And I, and I think that we've been that for you all as well,
Antonia: right? Definitely. There's been that openness to [00:32:00] exchange ideas and come together. And try something completely new. Unmitigated. Unchartered. So I think that's really the beauty of collaboration and I think that ELAC and the SRC have really been able to do great work in that
Kristie: and trust one another.
I think that's been the biggest thing. And I think even for us, when we started talking about, you know, how could we support each other around our caregiving initiatives, and we were literally just at. Lunch brainstorming. I mean, we brainstormed for about two hours. Mm-Hmm. And then it just. I think it was you, Antonio was like, well, what about, or it was Irma.
What about the podcast? And that was it, right? And so just taking a chance to say, we can do this. And it was a great thing you guys had going before. And so being able to come together and reimagine it, reimagine it, and how we could grow it and put our resources behind it to make it [00:33:00] bigger and even better, and wanting you guys to know.
Come to the table. This isn't just about us, it's really about the community at large. Mm-Hmm. And so this has been a great experience so far with this podcast. So thank you for inviting us in for this. 'cause you didn't have to do it. It could have went another way, but you trust us. And that definitely is displayed in our work in this podcast alone.
Antonia: Yeah, this has been a really exciting project, and this actually came out of the mediation program too, because we wanted to resolve conflict. We wanted to help families deal with that, but then we were like, what else can we do to support caregivers when they're away from that mediation table? What other resources might they need?
So. This came out of that, and that was a few years ago, and it was a great opportunity. And then, yeah, when we were at lunch, we were sitting there talking about just different [00:34:00] ideas. How do we move the caregiving initiative forward? Because that's such a huge initiative and so many people are doing it on so many different levels right now.
Podcasts just seemed like the way to go to keep it going because caregivers don't have a lot of time, but they could just listen to an episode, get what they need and keep it moving. So thank you for this opportunity too, and I'm, I'm really excited about it and all the great interviews we have ahead and I think just some great information to share.
Kristie: I agree. I agree. Most definitely. So once again, thank you for being who ELAC is and thank you Antonia for being who you are.
Antonia: Thanks, Kristie. I. That wraps up our conversation today on Caregiver Conversations where Kristie and I explore the vital roles of the SRC and ELAC in supporting seniors and caregivers.
Kristie: Antonia, thank you for [00:35:00] sharing valuable insights into ELAC’s initiatives and your own personal journey. For our listeners who wanna learn more about ELAC, where can they find more information?
Antonia: They can give us a call at (313) 937-8291. If anyone also wants to reach me via email, aharbin@wcs.org and Kristie, for those interested in learning more about the SRC and the incredible work being done, where can they find more information?
Kristie: Absolutely. The best place to find information for the SRC is on our website at www.seisrc.org. They can also connect with us on all of the social media platforms under Senior Regional Collaborative, and lastly, feel free to email us at info@miseniors.org, [00:36:00] and to our listeners, thank you for tuning in.
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Antonia: Stay connected with us on social media and keep the conversation going. Until next time, take care, stay empowered and keep caring.